do mind--give their attention to ( Philippians 3:19 ). For--as touching this "calling according to his purpose" ( Romans 8:28 ). of For 'the Spirit Himself' is in them, giving to the emotions which He Himself has kindled the only language of which they are capable; so that though on our part they are the fruit of impotence to utter what we feel, they are at the same time the intercession of the Spirit Himself in our behalf.". (So the best interpreters). For thus they reason:If such be the drops, what will the ocean be? Bless You! Proud member Life in Christ (cont.) (3) To whatever conformity to the Son of God in dignity and glory, believers are or shall hereafter be raised, it will be the joy of everyone of them, as it is most fitting, "that in all things He should have the pre-eminence" ( Colossians 1:18 ), ( Romans 8:29 ). Reading it made tears come to my eyes..(Lol ima cry baby). THIRD: Triumphant Summary of the Whole Argument ( Romans 8:28-39 ). and for sin--literally, "and about sin"; that is, "on the business of sin." It is not future to us. heirs of God--of our Father's kingdom. 28. [⇑ See verse text ⇑] Paul continues to offer encouragement to Christians on this side of eternity. Romans 8:15- "For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father."" Can oneself or deeds seperate us form the love of God? "…But sin, in order that it might truly be exposed as sin in me by that which is good, was working out death; so that by means of the commandment, sin might become exceedingly sinful" (v 13). in hope--or "in hope that.". And--rather, "But," inarticulate though these groanings be. 1 Chronicles 16:11 Seek the LORD and his strength; seek his presence continually! Holy Spirit groans (Romans 8:26-27) He groans as He prays for us, knowing we don’t always know what is best, He intercedes for us, praying that we might be led into the Will of God. Paul was writing in the first person on Romans 8, putting himself where we ALL are at. David now works as Director of Deaf Ministries for his mission board. shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? (8) If there could be any reasonable doubt in what light the death of Christ is to be regarded in this Epistle, Romans 8:34 ought to set that doubt entirely at rest. 18. Romans chapter 8 is one of the most blessed, encouraging and thrilling chapters in the Bible for the person who is "IN CHRIST JESUS" (compare verse 1, verse 39). Why? I pray God richly blesses you Trina … thanks for leaving your comment and testimony here, I am so encouraged. was made subject to vanity, not willingly--that is, through no natural principle of decay. 32. they that are in--and, therefore, under the government of the flesh cannot please God--having no obediential principle, no desire to please Him. ..and that much by itself make me so grateful that our awesome God loved us and loves us better than we can even love our ownselves. As it is written, For thy sake, &c.--( Psalms 44:22 )--quoted as descriptive of what God's faithful people may expect from their enemies at any period when their hatred of righteousness is roused, and there is nothing to restrain it (see Galatians 4:29 ). All rights reserved. What strong consolation is here! However, Jesus Christ was not and died in our place. is death--not only "ends in" [ALFORD, &c.], but even now "is"; carrying death into its bosom, so that such are "dead while they live" ( 1 Timothy 5:6 , Ephesians 2:1 Ephesians 2:5 ) [PHILIPPI]. 30. But this is no mere legal arrangement: it is a union in life; believers, through the indwelling of Christ's Spirit in them, having one life with Him, as truly as the head and the members of the same body have one life. For--a mere particle of transition here [THOLUCK], like "but" or "now." Glorious assurance! Glorious sentiment! He, doubtless, loved to utter His Father's name in both the accustomed forms; beginning with His cherished mother tongue, and adding that of the learned. 35, 36. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?--This does not mean "our love to Christ," as if, Who shall hinder us from loving Christ? • Those who are alive in Christ have the eternal security that they will never be separated from the love of Christ. but to be spiritually minded--"the mind" or "minding of the spirit"; that is, the pursuit of spiritual objects. That makes sense doesn’t it? This is talking about Israel and so is Romans 8: For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope Romans 8:20 NASB "Subjected to futility"--the word futility is from the Greek word mataiotes (mat-a-o-tace),which means: "the inability to reach the goal of its intended design." Then Paul continues to say that no created thing is able to separate us either. and whom he called--thus. (10) "The whole universe, with all that it contains, so far as it is good, is the friend and ally of the Christian; and, so far as it is evil, is more than a conquered foe" ( Romans 8:35-39 ) [HODGE]. It’s old Adam) do mind the things of the flesh (or old Adam. In our last study of Romans we looked at verses 24-25 of chapter 8, and the focus of our discussion was on "time." It is God that justifieth. 26, 27. Leave a comment with your favorite verse if it is not listed here. I like a hug when somebody hugs back. "His Session at God's right hand denotes His power to save us; His Intercession, His will to do it" [BENGEL]. Hence it is called "sitting on the right hand of Power" ( Matthew 26:64 ), and "sitting on the right hand of the Majesty on high" ( Hebrews 1:3 ) [PHILIPPI]. and joint-heirs with Christ--as the "First-born among many brethren" ( Romans 8:29 ), and as "Heir of all things" ( Hebrews 1:2 ). Note, (1) "There can be no safety, no holiness, no happiness, to those who are out of Christ: No "safety," because all such are under the condemnation of the law ( Romans 8:1 ); no holiness, because such only as are united to Christ have the spirit of Christ ( Romans 8:9 ); no happiness, because to be "carnally minded is death" ( Romans 8:6 )" [HODGE]. Romans 8. It cannot be taken to mean less than this: that the glorified Redeemer, conscious of His claims, expressly signifies His will that the efficacy of His death should be made good to the uttermost, and signifies it in some such royal style as we find Him employing in that wonderful Intercessory Prayer which He spoke as from within the veil "Father, I WILL that they also whom Thou hast given Me be with Me where I am" in what form this will is expressed is as undiscoverable as it is unimportant. 33, 34. Who shall lay anything to the charge of--or, "bring any charge against." (6) In return for such a sacrifice on God's part, what can be considered too great on ours? The law could irritate our sinful nature into more virulent action, as we have seen in Romans 7:5 , but it could not secure its own fulfilment. who is even--"also" at the right hand of God--The right hand of the king was anciently the seat of honor (compare 1 Samuel 20:25 , 1 Kings 2:19 , Psalms 45:9 ), and denoted participation in the royal power and glory ( Matthew 20:21 ). Note, (1) There is a glorious consistency between the eternal purposes of God and the free agency of men, though the link of connection is beyond human, perhaps created, apprehension ( Romans 8:28 ). 16- "The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17- "and if children, then heirs; heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. Provide reasons and evidence for your answer (see Kruse commentary, 314-21). 2. In this view the use of both words here has a charming simplicity and warmth. Romans 8:28 is one of the best known verses in the whole Bible: “All things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.” Did I say this was one of the “best known” verses of Scripture? for it is not subject--"doth not submit itself." For to possess and cultivate the graces of the spirit, to be led where he would guide us, is the design of our existence, and is the only path of happiness. The "strong man armed" is overpowered by the "stronger than he"; the weaker principle is dethroned and expelled by the more powerful; the principle of spiritual life prevails against and brings into captivity the principle of spiritual death--"leading captivity captive." Romans 8vs1-15 is my favourite verses and i need more knowlege on it.i pray God will continue to strengthen you. God’s will is good, perfect and acceptable. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. If you just pick up the Bible and start reading Romans seven you won't have a clue as to what it's talking about in reality, the difference between the letter of the Law and the spirit of the Law. (7) As prayer is the breath of the spiritual life, and the believer's only effectual relief under the "infirmity" which attaches to his whole condition here below, how cheering is it to be assured that the blessed Spirit, cognizant of it all, comes in aid of it all; and in particular, that when believers, unable to articulate their case before God, can at times do nothing but lie "groaning" before the Lord, these inarticulate groanings are the Spirit's own vehicle for conveying into "the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth" their whole case; and come up before the Hearer of prayer as the Spirit's own intercession in their behalf, and that they are recognized by Him that sitteth on the Throne, as embodying only what His own "will" determined before to bestow upon them ( Romans 8:26 Romans 8:27 )! AMEN Trina, God will use even evil for good. © 2020 whatchristianswanttoknow.com. (3) As suffering with Christ is the ordained preparation for participating in this glory, so the insignificance of the one as compared with the other cannot fail to lighten the sense of it, however bitter and protracted ( Romans 8:17 Romans 8:18 ). We’ve all experienced times when pain, suffering, loss, burdens of life overwhelm us, we don’t have the energy or wisdom to know how to pray, what a comfort to know the Spirit is interceding for us. Now if any man's heart be void, not of such dispositions, but of the blessed Author of them, "the Spirit of Christ." the things of the flesh, &c.--Men must be under the predominating influence of one or other of these two principles, and, according as the one or the other has the mastery, will be the complexion of their life, the character of their actions. Romans 8 is the eighth chapter of the Epistle to the Romans in the New Testament of the Christian Bible. There is therefore now, &c.--referring to the immediately preceding context [OLSHAUSEN, PHILIPPI, MEYER, ALFORD, &c.]. In what sense are we to take the word "foreknow" here? Thanks for stopping by! he is none of his--even though intellectually convinced of the truth of Christianity, and in a general sense influence by its spirit. What is Paul talking about in Romans 8:32? (Compare John 3:18 , 5:24 , Romans 5:18 Romans 5:19 ). our infirmities--rather (according to the true reading), "our infirmity"; not merely the one infirmity here specified, but the general weakness of the spiritual life in its present state, of which one example is here given. I don’t think it was by chance that i had come across this post. But--"And." (4) It cannot but swell the heart of every intelligent Christian to think that if external nature has been mysteriously affected for evil by the fall of man, it only awaits his completed recovery, at the resurrection, to experience a corresponding emancipation from its blighted condition into undecaying life and unfading beauty ( Romans 8:19-23 ). We enjoy the mercy of God because we are in Christ and God has accepted Jesus’ sacrifice. And "what manner of persons ought we to be," who are thus "blessed with all spiritual blessings in Christ?". 39. nor any other creature--rather, "created thing"--any other thing in the whole created universe of God shall be able to separate us, &c.--"All the terms here are to be taken in their most general sense, and need no closer definition. waiting for the--manifestation of our adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body--from the grave: "not (be it observed) the deliverance of ourselves from the body, but the redemption of the body itself from the grave" [BENGEL]. and whom he justified, them he also glorified--brought to final glory ( Romans 8:17 Romans 8:18 ). The Christian life is about faith in Jesus. what is romans 8 talking about. . We have the mind of Christ. 8. sending--"having sent" his own Son--This and similar expressions plainly imply that Christ was God's "OWN SON" before He was sent--that is, in His own proper Person, and independently of His mission and appearance in the flesh God, even as a son of his father, but is essentially of the Father, though in a sense too mysterious for any language of ours properly to define (see on the first through fourth chapters). I have made a choice. CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT--THE GLORIOUS COMPLETENESS OF THEM THAT ARE IN CHRIST JESUS. of the creature--rather, "the creation." nor things present, nor things to come--no condition of the present life and none of the unknown possibilities of the life to come. This necessity of conformity to Christ in suffering in order to participate in His glory, is taught alike by Christ Himself and by His apostles ( John 12:24-26 Matthew 16:24 Matthew 16:25 2 Timothy 2:12 ). Likewise the Spirit also, &c.--or, "But after the like manner doth the Spirit also help. He has started several deaf ministries in various countries and established a deaf church in Mexico. In this glorious sense our Lord says of His approaching death ( John 12:31 ), "Now is the judgment of this world; now shall the prince of this world be cast out," and again (the Spirit) shall come, He shall convince the world of . If you like what you're reading, you can get free daily updates through the RSS feed here. To God be the glory for the things HE has done! there is to such "NO CONDEMNATION." He then states in verse 12 that those who sinned without law will perish without law, and those who sinned in the law will be judged by the law. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors, through him that loved us--not, "We are so far from being conquered by them, that they do us much good" [HODGE]; for though this be true, the word means simply, "We are pre-eminently conquerors." God's elect?--the first place in this Epistle where believers are styled "the elect." (2) How ennobling is the thought that the complicated movements of the divine government of the world are all arranged in expressed furtherance of the "good" of God's chosen ( Romans 8:28 )! What has this study order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who ESV. "Those who He foreknew would repent and believe," say Pelagians of every age and every hue. eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'whatchristianswanttoknow_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_1',321,'0','0']));After the internal struggle that Paul expressed at the end of Chapter 7 it is refreshing to see him open Romans 8 with these words: “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus…" These words are for those who have put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their Savior. but the Spirit itself--rather, "Himself." Romans 8:1-39 . But as the bad are not called "angels," or "principalities," or "powers," save with some addition to show that such are meant ( Matthew 25:41 , Colossians 2:15 , Ephesians 6:12 , 2 Peter 2:4 --except perhaps 1 Corinthians 6:3 ), probably the good are meant here, but merely as the same apostle supposes an angel from heaven to preach a false gospel. Now you can be a testimony to others and you can let them know you have been delivered and so can they be delivered. The meaning is, that whereas the law was powerless to secure its own fulfilment for the reason given, God took the method now to be described for attaining that end. Compare Psalms 32:8 Psalms 32:9 : "I will . Moses’ original writing read as follow: “ If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. (7) The consciousness of spiritual life in our renewed souls is a glorious assurance of resurrection life in the body also, in virtue of the same quickening Spirit whose inhabitation we already enjoy ( Romans 8:11 ). It is difficult indeed for our limited minds to distinguish them as states of the Divine Mind towards men; especially since in Acts 2:23 "the counsel" is put before "the foreknowledge of God," while in 1 Peter 1:2 "election" is said to be "according to the foreknowledge of God." maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered--that is, which cannot be expressed in articulate language. I will share this with my group as a tool to help bring across the message in Romans 8. What Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs? and so far redemption is incomplete, but," &c.; that is, "If Christ be in you by His indwelling Spirit, though your 'bodies' have to pass through the stage of 'death' in consequence of the first Adam's 'sin,' your spirit is instinct with new and undying 'life,' brought in by the 'righteousness' of the second Adam" [THOLUCK, MEYER, and ALFORD in part, but only HODGE entirely]. It is an encouraging and heart-warming reminder that we have such a loving Heavenly Father. Who wouldn’t serve a God like that?! And--or, "Moreover," or "Now"; noting a transition to a new particular. (It thus appears that to be "in the spirit" means here to be under the dominion of our own renewed mind; because the indwelling of God's Spirit is given as the evidence that we are "in the spirit"). For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers--whether good or bad. eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'whatchristianswanttoknow_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_2',341,'0','0']));It would be easy to select just about any verse from chapter 8 to be on the list. 19-22. In another place the apostle says, “That Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the chief” (1 Timothy 1:15). If this be the apostle's meaning, the whole verse is to this effect: That the triumph of believers over their inward corruption, through the power of Christ's Spirit in them, proves them to be in Christ Jesus, and as such absolved from condemnation. Looking for some more Bible studies? The overarching theme is assurance. his Spirit that dwelleth in you--"Your bodies indeed are not exempt from the death which sin brought in; but your spirits even now have in them an undying life, and if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, even these bodies of yours, though they yield to the last enemy and the dust of them return to the dust as it was, shall yet experience the same resurrection as that of their living Head, in virtue of the indwelling of same Spirit in you that quickened Him.". This is God’s grace—Him giving us what we do not deserve. (6) "The patience of hope" ( 1 Thessalonians 1:3 ) is the fitting attitude for those who with the joyful consciousness that they are already "saved" ( 2 Timothy 1:9 , Titus 3:5 ), have yet the painful consciousness that they are saved but in part: or, "that being justified by His grace, they are made (in the present state) heirs according to the hope (only) of eternal life," Titus 3:7 ( Romans 8:24 Romans 8:25 ). Then surely, while "building ourselves up on our most holy faith," and "praying in the Holy Ghost," only the more should we feel constrained to "keep ourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life" ( Jude 1:20 Jude 1:21 ). Scarcely, because both "foreknowledge" and "foreordination" are here mentioned, and the one as the cause of the other. Romans 8:15-17 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. If we are faithful and obedient to the Spirit’s leading, we get to see and overcome more and more of our sinful human nature as time goes by. It was authored by Paul the Apostle, while he was in Corinth in the mid+50s CE, with the help of an amanuensis, Tertius, who added his own greeting in Romans 16:22. who also maketh intercession for us--using all His boundless interest with God in our behalf. of the children of God--that is, the creation itself shall, in a glorious sense, be delivered into that freedom from debility and decay in which the children of God, when raised up in glory, shall expatiate: into this freedom from corruptibility the creation itself shall, in a glorious sense, be delivered (So CALVIN, BEZA, BENGEL, THOLUCK, OLSHAUSEN, DE WETTE, MEYER, PHILIPPI, HODGE, ALFORD, &c.). ", 29. Jesus accepted our punishment on the cross. More like Jesus. But he tempers this by the bright alternative, that if they do, through the Spirit, mortify the deeds of the body, such a course will infallibly terminate in "life" everlasting. 16. This expressive phrase, as well as the whole thought, is suggested by Genesis 22:12 , where Jehovah's touching commendation of Abraham's conduct regarding his son Isaac seems designed to furnish something like a glimpse into the spirit of His own act in surrendering His own Son. is dead because of--"by reason of" sin; but the spirit is life because--or, "by reason" of righteousness--The word "indeed," which the original requires, is of the nature of a concession--"I grant you that the body is dead . (9) What an affecting view of the love of Christ does it give us to learn that His greatest nearness to God and most powerful interest with Him--as "seated on His right hand"--is employed in behalf of His people here below ( Romans 8:34 )! but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the ye shall live--in the sense of Romans 6:22 . It doesn’t matter what people say but what God’s Word says that counts. But how are we to conceive of this intercession? to fear--as under the law which "worketh wrath," that is, "Such was your condition before ye believed, living in legal bondage, haunted with incessant forebodings under a sense of unpardoned sin. God bless you. no condemnation: to them which are in Christ Jesus--As Christ, who \"knew no sin,\" was, to all legal effects, \"made sin for us,\" so are we, who believe in Him, to all legal effects, \"made the righteousness of God in Him\" ( 2 Corinthians 5:21 ); and thus, one with Him in the divine reckoning. Note, (1) Are believers "led by the Spirit of God" ( Romans 8:14 )? And all this is viewed as past; because, starting from the past decree of "predestination to be conformed to the image of God's Son" of which the other steps are but the successive unfoldings--all is beheld as one entire, eternally completed salvation. "It is no ground of confidence to assert, or even to feel, that we will never forsake Christ; but it is the strongest ground of assurance to be convinced that His love will never change" [HODGE]. https://www.insight.org/resources/bible/the-pauline-epistles The apostle says not (remarks CALVIN nobly) "What," but "Who," just as if all creatures and all afflictions were so many gladiators taking arms against the Christians [THOLUCK]. Thus whom he did predestinate, them he also called--The word "called" (as HODGE and others truly observe) is never in the Epistles of the New Testament applied to those who have only the outward invitation of the Gospel (as in Matthew 20:16 , 22:14 ). You are willing. In Romans 2:1-11 Paul explains that there is no partiality with God, but those who do good will be rewarded (verses 7, 10) and those who do unrighteousness will be punished (verses 8-9). You are an encouragement. Nor would the other sense harmonize with the scope of the chapter, which is to exhibit the ample ground of the believer's confidence in Christ. This past week in my class on Romans and Galatians my students answered the following prompt: Who do you believe Paul is talking about in the famous passage in Romans 7:7-25? I hear people say, that it the verses does not mention one self. And through chapter 11 this subject is developed -- the sentence is somewhat imperfect in structure! 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